In Tom Temin’s fourth installment of interviews from the Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division, Temin explored two futuristic systems. Neither is ready for mounting on the deck of a Navy ship. But both work in laboratory test beds. First Temin talks with Ben Tritt, the chief of Dahlgren’s high energy laser weapons systems. And then we’ll hear Temin’s conversation with Adam Jones, head of advanced hypersonics and guided munitions.