The GovNavigators chat with Ryan Higgins, Chief Information Security Officer and Deputy CIO, and Trey Kennedy, Senior Strategic Advisor to the CISO at the Department of Commerce about the challenges of securing data and networks at one of the largest and most diverse federal agencies . Ryan and Trey talk about nontraditional paths to working in cybersecurity, the soft skills necessary to be successful coordinating across organizations with drastically different missions, and the opportunities they have to raise awareness about the importance of cybersecurity every month (not just during cybersecurity awareness month).