GovNavigators

GovNavigators is a government-focused show that won’t make you seasick. We hope to enlighten and enliven your week with news and insightful, entertaining guests all on the topic of government management.


  • The GovNavigators welcome Jessica Lucas-Judy from the Government Accountability Office to discuss Robert's favorite publication in all of government management: GAO's Duplication and Cost Savings report.  Robert and Adam also praise the nomination of friend…
    July 31, 2023
  • Our long-time friend Jen Kerber joins the program with her partner-in-crime Jordan Burris from Socure to discuss the evolution of the challenge of online identify verification. Both former federal government officials working in the identify…
    July 24, 2023
  • Agile methodologies have been used in software development for years. But how can we bring the same concepts of Agile software development to all aspects of government management? Joseph Mitchell, Director of Strategic Initiatives &…
    July 17, 2023
  • Justin Baer, Vice President for Program Evaluation and Policy Analysis at ForsMarsh joins the GovNavigators Show to discuss evidence-based policymaking, program evaluation, and his love for randomized control trials. Robert and Adam also discuss with…
    July 10, 2023
  • Happy Independence Day! In this special pop up episode, Robert and Adam share their plans for celebrating America's 247th birthday and reflect on how those plans will likely fall far short of how John Adams…
    July 3, 2023
  • What is a QSMO? Does anyone really know? Long-time listener from the Bureau of the Fiscal Service Garen Behnke joins The GovNavigators Show to share the latest on the FM Quality Service Management Office. Garen…
    June 26, 2023
  • On this week’s episode of GovNavigators, friend of the program and certified favorite guest Katie Malague joins Adam Hughes and Robert Shea to discuss her work as the Principal Deputy Chief Operating Officer for Management…
    June 19, 2023
  • This week on the GovNavigators Show, Jason Miller, executive editor of Federal News Network, joins us for an extended discussion of the latest news and headlines in government management, including Tik Tok bans, vacancies at…
    June 12, 2023
  • Debt Deal’s done. Now we can go back to worrying about the specter of AI! Tech Guru & AlphaAdvisors.xyz founder Kyle Murphy joins the GovNavigators to break down AI; what it means for you &…
    June 5, 2023
  • The GovNavigators are taking a break this week — enjoy a brief, pop-up Memorial Day episode. We hope you’re taking time out to reflect on the ultimate sacrifice many have made safeguarding our fragile democracy…
    May 29, 2023
  • Max Stier, Founding President and CEO of the Partnership for Public Service and Brooke Bollyky, Managing Director and Partner, North America Public Sector Practice Lead at BCG join the GovNavigators Podcast to talk about the…
    May 22, 2023
  • Friend of the show Matthew Cornelius joins the GovNavigators Podcast to reflect on his time on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and his contributions to federal IT policy over his career. He…
    May 15, 2023
  • This week, Robert and Adam are joined by Doug Criscitello and Dr. Monique Mansoura, two of 34 renown experts who came together to sift through an enormous amount of information related to COVID to try…
    May 8, 2023
  • This week on the GovNavigators Podcast, Robert and Adam discuss Speaker McCarthy's triumph taking all night to pass a bill that will never become law and OPM's release of its new data strategy. Also, former…
    May 1, 2023