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Until the 2013 Defense authorization bill, the only mentor-protégé program at the Small Business Administration was for 8(a) companies, while other agencies ran their own programs with varying degrees of success and approaches. In some cases, mentors got credit toward their subcontracting goals for simply sponsoring agency small business conferences. There were no standard measures of success. The 2013 law created minimum standards for non-Defense agency...
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Duration: 1 hour
Cost: No Fee
Until the 2013 Defense authorization bill, the only mentor-protégé program at the Small Business Administration was for 8(a) companies, while other agencies ran their own programs with varying degrees of success and approaches. In some cases, mentors got credit toward their subcontracting goals for simply sponsoring agency small business conferences. There were no standard measures of success. The 2013 law created minimum standards for non-Defense agency programs that would have to be approved by SBA, and expanded SBA’s program to all small businesses.
It then took SBA eight years to finalize the rules—from 2012 to November 2020.
Agencies and vendors recently “celebrated” the one-year anniversary of these significant changes to the mentor-protégé program.
Some agencies, like the departments of Homeland Security and Defense, have been slow to adopt the SBA standards while others have discontinued their individual programs and will rely on SBA.
With this major change in the mentor-protégé program, what should companies and agencies keep in mind and how can they both be successful?
Emily Murphy, a partner and coach at CEO Coaching International and a former administrator of the General Services Administration, said now that SBA and contractors have a standard set of measures to understand what success looks like, the program is more valuable than ever.
“One of the other concerns we had was that a small business might spend resources to get a mentor-protégé program approved at, say GSA, but then they couldn’t use that mentor-protégé program when going after work at DHS, so then had to go get enter into the DHS mentor-protégé program. And if they wanted to expand then to the Department of Interior, they had to find yet another mentor-protégé program. So we had companies that were collecting mentor-protégé programs without really getting any benefit from them,” Murphy said during the discussion The New Mentor-Protégé Program for Small, Large Businesses. “This [new rule] means that there’s only one program that they have to apply for now and that’s a statutory program, so there is SBAs and one at DoD, but it’s not a question of whether you have to have both because you do not.”
Murphy said the impetus to expand and standardize the program came from the success Congress saw within the 8(a) mentor-protégé program.
“To have other programs out there that were having small businesses spend resources and energy, but there were no actual measure of success for those programs, and potentially liability associated with the programs didn’t seem like a good direction for the government to be pointing those businesses,” she said. “Instead, the idea was let’s take a program that works and expand it and open it up to other businesses other so all small businesses could participate.”
When a small firm decides to enter the mentor-protégé program, they are eligible to receive up to seven different types of technical assistance from their mentor.
These include everything from technical assistance on things like cost and pricing to assistance on business development facilities to international trade assistance.
“There are all sorts of ways that they can then receive help technical assistance, including and not but not limited to, they can receive help with procurement and in terms of actually performing contracts together. They can agree in their mentor-protégé program that to acts as a subcontractor to their mentor. But they can then also agree that they intend to form a joint venture has to be separately approved. But that joint venture then can go after work, using the small businesses status, to pursue contracts that might be a reach for the protégé on their own. And they can use the past performance of their mentor as well as the past performance of the protégé when they’re applying for those contracts,” Murphy said.
Angela Styles, a partner with the law firm Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer and Feld and a former administrator of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy, said the relationship is as much about learning how to operate the business as a government contractor to they have long-term success as the anticipation of winning contracts.
“If you’re ultimately going to be affiliated, whether it’s economic dependence or whether it’s their percentage of ownership, at the end of the day you want to be your own business that if you’re small, you can continue to compete is small and not be affiliated with your mentor,” she said. “The mentor-protégé program making it easier. It is so hard for small businesses to understand federal procurement and to access the federal procurement system that this is a path that should be much easier for them.”
Murphy, who provides coaching to small and large firms, added the companies need to focus on what is the expertise they are trying to acquire through the technical assistance, and the contracting is the “icing on the cake.”
“I would strongly advise my clients that when they’re considering entering into a mentor-protégé agreement, you don’t want to get married before you’ve had a date. So you probably want to have some experience of working together because you’ve got a two-year minimum commitment to each other and you want to know that you’re going to work well together,” she said. “If this is just a marriage of convenience to get contracts, it may not serve you well in the long run. If this is actually a joint venture, where the two of you are going to be able to really complement each other, and you it’s a case where one plus one equals three, then the mentor-protégé agreement in a joint venture make a lot of sense.”
Styles added it’s important for small businesses to protect their intellectual property when they are entering into an agreement with another company.
“The one thing you should always hire a lawyer for is to make sure that your intellectual property is adequately protected because the last thing you want to do is build this great business and be giving over your intellectual property to either your mentor or to the federal government,” she said. “Unfortunately, it happens all the time. The government has become more aggressive and wanting more rights and intellectual property. I think larger businesses many of them aren’t as creative at developing new intellectual property, so part of what they’re out there looking for is companies to buy, but also the intellectual property of particular small businesses that may help their business in the long run.”
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Partner, CEO Coaching International and former GSA Administrator
Partner, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld and former OFPP Administrator
Adjunct Professor, Organizational Studies, Anderson School of Management, University of New Mexico
Partner, CEO Coaching International and former GSA Administrator
Emily Murphy is a leading expert in government contracting and the business of government. She has held multiple leadership roles in the federal government, most recently serving as Administrator for the U.S. General Services Administration (GSA), the federal agency charged with managing 371 million square feet of office space, over $75 billion in governmentwide contracts, and a number of shared services. She has also served in legal and operational roles in both the public and private sectors.
Partner, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld and former OFPP Administrator
With a practice spanning more than 25 years, Angela Styles is among the most prominent government contracts lawyers in the United States.
She is recognized for her deep experience in government procurement policy, cost and pricing issues, commercial item contracting, Other Transaction Authority agreements and compliance. She brings to bear her experience as an administrator for federal procurement policy within the OMB, a position that required confirmation by the U.S. Senate. For eight years, Angela also served in the role of executive director of the Defense Industry Initiative on Business Ethics and Conduct. Angela has testified about complex federal procurement issues at more than 30 hearings before committees for the Senate and U.S. House of Representatives.
Angela’s previous private practice experience includes chairing the government contracts practice at another international law firm and serving as that firm’s chair. She also worked as legislative aide for Congressman Joe Barton and the Governor of the State of Texas.
Adjunct Professor, Organizational Studies, Anderson School of Management, University of New Mexico
Dr. Elinor Sue Coates worked in contract management for over 35 years on a variety of projects in both public and private sectors and owned a small business for fifteen years providing procurement-related consulting and training services and publishing a local bid information service.
She holds a Bachelor of Science in Management from Golden Gate University (cum laude), a Certificate in Contract Administration from University of California Berkeley Extension, a Master of Public Administration from University of San Francisco where her thesis was about municipal corruption, and a PhD in Organizational Learning and Instructional Technologies at University of New Mexico in Albuquerque. Her doctoral work focused on organizational culture and inter-organizational relations. Her dissertation was about how students over age 75 experience youth-oriented campus culture. She is currently employed as Adjunct Professor in Organizational Studies at University of New Mexico, Anderson School of Management, and at UNM Continuing Education teaching grant writing.
Her publications include “The Subcontract Management Manual,” “How to Make Ethical Decisions,” “How to Find M/WBE Subcontractors,” a chapter on International Subcontracting, and a training manual for the United Nations, and she co-authored an article on “Subcontract Types.” She retired from the University of Arkansas with Emeritus status in 2010 and is a frequent speaker and trainer, presenting topics related to her research and experience. She managed Procurement Technical Assistance Centers in four states over fifteen years and continues to support the small business community.