David Hawkings: Will the SOTU help or hurt budget talks?

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Congress has until a week from Thursday to pass a budget and avert another government shutdown. Yet, senators seem as far apart as ever —  on just about everything. The intervening Jan. 30 State of the Union speech could help or hurt. David Hawkings, senior editor of Roll Call, joined Federal Drive with Tom Temin to provide more context on what to expect.